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We invite Wales-based designers & producers to join us in the lobby of the Sherman Theatre for an afternoon of conversations and exchanges exploring the relationship between designers and producers - two key roles in the theatre making that often seem to not fully understand the challenges, commitment, time, and resources each need to fully collaborate. Facilitated by director, producer, and arts leader Rhian Hutchings, we hope to begin having the difficult conversations and lay groundwork for a more sustainable and collaborative theatre making in Wales.